Join us as we talk to Phish’s Jon Fishman. We discuss the Vonnegut novel that destroyed religion for Jon, dealing with fame, playing the vacuum with Kurt, and Jon’s project Calypso inspired by Cat’s Cradle. Originally aired on June 11, 2022. 

Find out more about Jon by going to or following him at Jon Fishman on Facebook. Visit for more information about KVML events and programs. Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter @VonnegutLibrary. Audio mix and editing by Nick Corey. Cover Art by Arusyak Pivazyan @bamboleiyoo.